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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:59 pm    Post subject: I need some feedback on my new site design Reply with quote

Hi all.
Can I please get some thoughts on my new look site. Thanks.
http://freewebdesignonline.org
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:59 pm    Post subject: Re: I need some feedback on my new site design Reply with quote

On Jul 14, 10:59 am, "Chaddy2222" <m...@me.me> wrote:
Quote:
Can I please get some thoughts on my new look site. Thanks.http://freewebdesignonline.org

Looks like it works perfectly.

But, it is bland and boring. The "header" gives me a headache when I
look at it. It almost looks blurry. If I went there looking for
someone to do my website I would assume the create was an amateur.
While "technically" it may be great, cosmetically it looks like a
child created it.

The menu items blend together so it looks like some weird malformed
sentence. I am almost expecting to see one of those "under
construction" images when the page opens.

Drop shadows are like "spinner" hubcaps. They look childish and
obsolete.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:59 pm    Post subject: Re: I need some feedback on my new site design Reply with quote

On 14 Jul 2008, "Chaddy2222" <me@me.me> wrote:

Quote:
Hi all.
Can I please get some thoughts on my new look site. Thanks.
http://freewebdesignonline.org

Overall, I like it. There are a few things...

The bottom inner rectangle is slightly (annoyingly) shorter than the others.
(This is my main gripe.)

The (inner) texts start at different indents.

In ff, the "Home Latest news About us Contact us Services Faq" text is pretty
much vertically centered, looking good. In ie7, it's top-shifted, and
vertical spacings are different.

All words in the links should probably be capitalized and the links
themselves should be separated by something like a "|" (-in my opinion.)

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:59 pm    Post subject: Re: I need some feedback on my new site design Reply with quote

On Jul 14, 3:19 pm, Neredbojias <me@http://www.neredbojias.net/_eml/
fliam.php> wrote:
Quote:
All words...

bla bla bla....

Quote:
Neredbojiashttp://www.neredbojias.net/

I believe it is called plagiarism when you don't quote the source...
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:27 pm    Post subject: Re: I need some feedback on my new site design Reply with quote

On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:59:01 GMT
"Chaddy2222" <me@me.me> wrote in:
<VQJek.19771$IK1.9599@news-server.bigpond.net.au>

Quote:
Hi all.
Can I please get some thoughts on my new look site. Thanks.
[snip]


The navigation "list" is rather bizarre.

<div id="navbar">
<ul
id="navlist"> <li> <a href="index.php">Home</a> <a
href="latest-news.php">Latest news</a> <a href="about-us.php">About us</a>
<a href="contact.php">Contact us</a> <a href="services.php">Services</a>
<a href="faq.php">Faq</a></li> </ul> </div>

I wonder what the reason is that this list would be assembled in such a
manner. A brief description on this interesting construction may be
interesting.

What I would have expected to see would be something like:

<ul id="navlist">
<li><a href="index.php">Home</a></li>
<li><a href="latest-news.php">Latest news</a></li>
<li><a href="about-us.php">About us</a></li>
<li><a href="contact.php">Contact us</a></li>
<li><a href="services.php">Services</a></li>
<li><a href="faq.php">Faq</a></li>
</ul>

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:45 pm    Post subject: Re: I need some feedback on my new site design Reply with quote

"Chaddy2222" <me@me.me> wrote:

Quote:
Hi all.
Can I please get some thoughts on my new look site. Thanks.
http://freewebdesignonline.org



It's very blue.

The logo is tacky

The four boxes are different widths

The links are not obvious links or navigation buttons.

Having read the "About Us" page, I draw the conclusion - albeit
perhaps unfairly - that "we" is the Royal We (that is Chad Kelly), and
that you operate as a single operative from a small room in a private
flat in South West Victoria, Australia.

Please define "non profit". It is common among business to make a
loss, in order to avoid paying tax. Will those companies not making a
profit also benefit from a free web design service? I don't think
that's your intended market, but you could get caught by trade
descriptions law unless you are more precise.

Matt


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:01 pm    Post subject: Re: I need some feedback on my new site design Reply with quote

Matt Probert wrote:
Quote:
"Chaddy2222" <me@me.me> wrote:

Hi all.
Can I please get some thoughts on my new look site. Thanks.
http://freewebdesignonline.org



It's very blue.

The logo is tacky

The four boxes are different widths

The links are not obvious links or navigation buttons.

Having read the "About Us" page, I draw the conclusion - albeit
perhaps unfairly - that "we" is the Royal We (that is Chad Kelly), and
that you operate as a single operative from a small room in a private
flat in South West Victoria, Australia.

Please define "non profit". It is common among business to make a
loss, in order to avoid paying tax. Will those companies not making a
profit also benefit from a free web design service? I don't think
that's your intended market, but you could get caught by trade
descriptions law unless you are more precise.

"Non-profit" is an established and well understood term. It doesn't mean
"businesses running at a loss".
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:11 pm    Post subject: Re: I need some feedback on my new site design Reply with quote

Harlan Messinger wrote:
Quote:
"Non-profit" is an established and well understood term. It doesn't
mean "businesses running at a loss".

It is in the United States.

IIRC, neither Chaddy nor Matt Probert live in the United States. Chaddy
will have to determine whether the term "non-profit" is well understood
to his target audience.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:15 pm    Post subject: Re: I need some feedback on my new site design Reply with quote

Harlan Messinger wrote:

Quote:
Matt Probert wrote:
"Chaddy2222" <me@me.me> wrote:

Hi all.
Can I please get some thoughts on my new look site. Thanks.
http://freewebdesignonline.org



It's very blue.

The logo is tacky

The four boxes are different widths

The links are not obvious links or navigation buttons.

Having read the "About Us" page, I draw the conclusion - albeit
perhaps unfairly - that "we" is the Royal We (that is Chad Kelly), and
that you operate as a single operative from a small room in a private
flat in South West Victoria, Australia.

Please define "non profit". It is common among business to make a
loss, in order to avoid paying tax. Will those companies not making a
profit also benefit from a free web design service? I don't think
that's your intended market, but you could get caught by trade
descriptions law unless you are more precise.

"Non-profit" is an established and well understood term. It doesn't mean
"businesses running at a loss".

Probably the best term is 'not for profit.'

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:21 pm    Post subject: Re: I need some feedback on my new site design Reply with quote

On Jul 14, 5:15 pm, "Red E. Kilowatt" <SPAMT...@aww-faq.org> wrote:
Quote:
Something like this makes a title much more readable:http://aww-faq.org/fwdo.jpg

Are you saying you actually think this is a good example of using a
drop shadow?

http://freewebdesignonline.org/logo.jpg

The problem is not drop shadow, the problem is overuse of the
"default" drop shadow, 5px wide, drop to the right. Exactly like your
example. Overused, boring, and for a logo, unimaginative.
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Harlan Messinger
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:31 pm    Post subject: Re: I need some feedback on my new site design Reply with quote

Scott Bryce wrote:
Quote:
Harlan Messinger wrote:
"Non-profit" is an established and well understood term. It doesn't
mean "businesses running at a loss".

It is in the United States.

IIRC, neither Chaddy nor Matt Probert live in the United States. Chaddy
will have to determine whether the term "non-profit" is well understood
to his target audience.

If you don't know one way or the other, why did you decide to question
his use of the term?
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Scott Bryce
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:50 pm    Post subject: Re: I need some feedback on my new site design Reply with quote

Harlan Messinger wrote:
Quote:
If you don't know one way or the other, why did you decide to
question his use of the term?

I didn't. Matt Probert did.

I am saying that it is true that the term non-profit has a definite
meaning in the United States, I cannot, as a United States citizen
determine whether the term is well define where Chaddy or Matt Probert live.

Chaddy used the term on his site. Matt Probert questioned the use of the
term. You explained that it is a well defined term. I clarified that is
is well defined in the United States, and that whether it is well
defined to Chaddy's intended audience is for Chaddy to determine, not
you, myself or Matt Probert.

Likewise the term 501(c)(3) would leave no doubt in anyone's mind, if
that anyone were a US citizen, but would be meaningless to citizens of
other countries.
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Harlan Messinger
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:58 pm    Post subject: Re: I need some feedback on my new site design Reply with quote

Scott Bryce wrote:
Quote:
Harlan Messinger wrote:
If you don't know one way or the other, why did you decide to
question his use of the term?

I didn't. Matt Probert did.

Oh. Right. Sorry.

Quote:
I am saying that it is true that the term non-profit has a definite
meaning in the United States, I cannot, as a United States citizen
determine whether the term is well define where Chaddy or Matt Probert
live.

Chaddy used the term on his site. Matt Probert questioned the use of the
term. You explained that it is a well defined term. I clarified that is
is well defined in the United States, and that whether it is well
defined to Chaddy's intended audience is for Chaddy to determine, not
you, myself or Matt Probert.

Indeed. I assume Chaddy used it because for him it is the common term in
Australia for the same general thing it is used for the in the U.S.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:00 am    Post subject: Re: I need some feedback on my new site design Reply with quote

On 14 Jul 2008, Travis Newbury <travisnewbury@gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
On Jul 14, 3:19 pm, Neredbojias <me@http://www.neredbojias.net/_eml/
fliam.php> wrote:
All words...

bla bla bla....

Neredbojiashttp://www.neredbojias.net/

I believe it is called plagiarism when you don't quote the source...

Um, I must have missed something here. What's plagiarism?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:03 am    Post subject: Re: I need some feedback on my new site design Reply with quote

On 14 Jul 2008, Martin Jay <martin@spam-free.org.uk> wrote:

Quote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:59:01 GMT, "Chaddy2222" <me@me.me> wrote:

Hi all.
Can I please get some thoughts on my new look site. Thanks.
http://freewebdesignonline.org

Visually bland and uninspiring.

It appears that you initially decided to centre your pages, then opted
to left align them. It looks a little odd.

The contents of the first page refers to links to the left, but the
menu is above.

Links to other websites you've designed would be nice, as would
examples of the design templates you mention.

The HTML is a bit of a mess. Let's take your home page as an example:

IMO the Free Web Design Online graphic should be the main H1 heading;

your menu is a bit odd. Each item should be within its own <li></li>,
otherwise there isn't much point in making it a list;

you should really use &copy; instead of the copyright symbol;

and your paragraphs are a bit of a mess. Each paragraph should be
within its own <p></p>, and there's rarely any need to use the <br
tag.

I feel a bit rotten only having bad things to say about your pages, so
I've re-edited your home page to include some of the points I've
raised. Hope you find it helpful.

See:
http://www.spam-free.org.uk/examples/free_web_design_online.html>.

Yep, I have to admit - it looks better. But it's still the OP's design
with a little sprucing-up.

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